{"id":379,"date":"2015-02-10T23:15:11","date_gmt":"2015-02-11T04:15:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/?p=379"},"modified":"2015-02-10T23:51:45","modified_gmt":"2015-02-11T04:51:45","slug":"probchat-a-chat-about-teaching-with-non-routine-problems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/2015\/02\/10\/probchat-a-chat-about-teaching-with-non-routine-problems\/","title":{"rendered":"#probchat: A chat about teaching with &#8220;non-routine&#8221; problems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before I get into what #probchat, I&#8217;ll talk about how it started:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"550\">\n<p>Is there a twitter chat for people who try to teach with non-routine problems and lots of class discussion?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Carl Oliver (@carloliwitter) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/carloliwitter\/status\/564616628080754688\">February 9, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>I was looking through the many math education related chats out there, focused on teaching with problems.\u00a0 After a trail of conversation longer than I&#8217;ve ever been a part of on Twitter, a couple things became clear. A) This doesn&#8217;t exist, and B) A lot of people would be interested if it did. So I thought about it, and decided I should do my part to make this exist, even if that means I am the &#8216;guy&#8217; or whatever. Now how does one get one of these started?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"550\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/carloliwitter\">@carloliwitter<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Veganmathbeagle\">@Veganmathbeagle<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nrichmaths\">@nrichmaths<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BridgetDunbar\">@BridgetDunbar<\/a> I was told just pick a day, a time, publicize and its started!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Andrew Gael (@bkdidact) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bkdidact\/status\/564634736048742401\">February 9, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So I guess if I follow @bkdidact&#8217;s advice, I could just get this started. But first I think some basic questiosn need to be ansered.<\/p>\n<p>The biggest question about the chat is probably &#8220;what is a &#8220;non routine&#8221; problem?&#8221; Well, it&#8217;s certainly not a problem with only one emphasized solution strategy. It&#8217;s also a problem that must give students a chance to grapple with mathematical concepts, so problems like the <a href=\"http:\/\/math2.eku.edu\/greenwell\/mat303\/jackals\/\">jackal and the coyote<\/a> may not be appropriate. I like to imagine that it&#8217;s a problem that <a href=\"http:\/\/davidwees.com\/content\/magdalene-lampert-ambitious-math-teaching\/\">Magdalene Lampert<\/a> would teach at Spartan Village elementary, during\u00a0a video I saw in my undergrad teaching program. It&#8217;s also a problem that can inspire\u00a0a long conversation. It could loosely be defined as problems that would appear on <a href=\"http:\/\/nrich.maths.org\/frontpage\">nrich <\/a>and perhaps be taught in a manner consistent with the people at the <a href=\"http:\/\/mathforum.org\/pps\/video.html\">math forum<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What are we going to chat about?<br \/>\nProblems will be given out a head of time, so people have time to think about solutions. \u00a0We can talk about solving the problem, gathering multiple solution strategies, understand how the problem could be discussed in different classes, and among different levels of content exposure and understanding. Students who are working on different grade levels and who have different prior knowlege can approach each task with different levels of depth, which we can set out. \u00a0The structure of the chat is fluid and will change over time as we work through problems more and learn more about how share thinking over the internet. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Practices-Orchestrating-Productive-Mathematics-Discussions\/dp\/0873536770\">5 practices<\/a>\u00a0can form a good structure for much of the discussion about the teaching of these problems.\u00a0When the chat is finished, participants should have everything they need to have a rich conversation about the problem if they decide to teach it (and perhaps they can share their results!).<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" width=\"550\">\n<p>How would people feel about <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/probchat?src=hash\">#probchat<\/a>, a chat about non-routine problems, happening on Sundays at 9?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Carl Oliver (@carloliwitter) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/carloliwitter\/status\/564993119910113280\">February 10, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So that&#8217;s the idea. \u00a0#probchat! \u00a0We&#8217;ll talk about problems every Sunday at 9. \u00a0Problems will be posted ahead of time and we&#8217;ll see what happens. \u00a0We&#8217;ll kick things off with a post-Valentine&#8217;s session on Sunday February 15th, and keep it going weekly from there.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that will be valuable will be very interesting problems. \u00a0I will try my best to facilitate, but I certainly have a narrow pool of problems to pull from. \u00a0It would be better for everyone if members of the #mtbos contribute interesting and conversation-provoking problems as often as possible.<\/p>\n<p>Big thanks to everyone who chimed on twitter. Hopefully we&#8217;ll hear from <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/davidwees\"><s>@<\/s>davidwees<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/maxmathforum\"><s>@<\/s>maxmathforum<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bkdidact\"><s>@<\/s>bkdidact<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Veganmathbeagle\"><s>@<\/s>Veganmathbeagle<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nrichmaths\"><s>@<\/s>nrichmaths<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BridgetDunbar\"><s>@<\/s>BridgetDunbar<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Mythagon\"><s>@<\/s>Mythagon<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MFAnnie\"><s>@<\/s>MFAnnie<\/a> <a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SuMACzanne\"><s>@<\/s>SuMACzanne<\/a>\u00a0<a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/themathforum\"><s>@<\/s>themathforum<\/a>\u00a0<a class=\"twitter-atreply pretty-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mpershan\"><s>@<\/s>mpershan<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/j_lanier\">@j_lanier<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/melomania\">@melomania<\/a>\u00a0at the chat,\u00a0and in helping provide problems to discuss. \u00a0And if anyone wants to give me any kind of feedback or advice about this whole thing please feel free to let me know in the comments.<\/p>\n<p>Edit: Thanks for the <a href=\"https:\/\/thelearningkaleidoscope.wordpress.com\/2015\/02\/11\/a-students-eye-view\/\">pre-emptive shout out<\/a> Andrew!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before I get into what #probchat, I&#8217;ll talk about how it started: Is there a twitter chat for people who try to teach with non-routine problems and lots of class discussion? &mdash; Carl Oliver (@carloliwitter) February 9, 2015 I was looking through the many math education related chats out there, focused on teaching with problems.\u00a0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"@Veganmathbeagle @bkdidact @BridgetDunbar  Proposing a new chat about \"non-routine\" problems #probchat (or something else)","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4xz6U-67","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/379"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=379"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/379\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":385,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/379\/revisions\/385"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=379"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=379"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.coast2coast.me\/carl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=379"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}